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Panel gets earful on how to fight poverty
by Bob Shiles, Staff Writer
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Several people spoke to the Joint Legislative Poverty Reduction and Economic Recovery Study Commission at a public hearing on Thursday. | Staff photo by Bob Shiles
Several people spoke to the Joint Legislative Poverty Reduction and Economic Recovery Study Commission at a public hearing on Thursday. | Staff photo by Bob Shiles
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LUMBERTON — More education, an improved transportation system, affordable housing, and more access to child care are all needed to reduce the region’s high poverty rate, a state commission studying poverty was told Thursday.

During a two-hour public hearing at Robeson Community College, about 20 people spoke to the Joint Legislative Poverty Reduction and Economic Recovery Study Commission, including high school students, representatives of agencies that deal daily with poor people, and others concerned with the high poverty rates in Robeson and surrounding counties. Robeson County is No. 1 in the state for poverty, with about one third of its residents living below the threshold.

Thursday’s was the first of two public hearings that the commission is holding as it prepares to make recommendations to state legislators when the General Assembly re-convenes in May. There have been several meetings in Raleigh during the past year, and two more meetings are slated before the General Assembly returns.

The commission, which includes 21 people, lawmakers and members of the public, was formed in 2008 to develop a coordinated approach to poverty reduction and economic recovery across the state. It is co-chaired by Rep. Garland E. Pierce, whose district includes Robeson County, and Sen. Edward Jones, who represents several small rural counties in the eastern part of the state.

“No matter how you look at it, it all comes down to education,” Elizabeth Yarrington, an 11th-grade student in Robeson County’s Early College High School Program, told the commission. “If people are educated it will help get rid of the area’s high crime rate and there will be more people who will want to come to the area. You have to have something good to offer them.”

Sherry Harrell, an English teacher at the Early College High School, told the commission how effective the program has been over the five years it has been in existence. Noting that some students from low-income families take part in the program, she urged the commission to support expanding it to other areas.

“We’re sending people out into the work force already trained and skilled,” she said, pointing out that students in the five-year program graduate not only with a high school diploma, but with college credits as well.

Patrick Britt, a senior at the Early College, said that it’s often overlooked that Robeson County has some good things to offer.

“I’ve been told that after I graduate I should leave the area,” he said. “But I plan to come back. I want to better myself here.”

Getting people out of poverty means having jobs and a convenient way for them to get to the jobs, several speakers said.

“How do we get people to jobs and out of town if there is no transportation system?” said Sandra Wilson, administrator of W.B. Healthcare in Red Springs.

Housing is an important issue to be addressed when looking at poverty, Nancy Walker, director of housing authorities in both Laurinburg and Maxton, told the commission. She urged members to recommend to the General Assembly that the N.C. Housing Trust Fund be continued and possibly expanded.

“The Housing Trust Fund is such an important tool in meeting area housing needs,” she said.

Walker described the trust fund as being very “flexible,” allowing for such uses as building homeless shelters, special needs housing and retrofitting the homes of the elderly and disabled so that they can continue to remain in their homes.

Della Sweat, director of Social Services in Hoke County, brought to the commission’s attention concerns of the state County Directors of Social Services Association. The association’s emphasis is that more attention needs to be given to ensuring quality child care.

Sweat cited association recommendations that included: creation of no new bureaucracies; streamline child care subsidy funding into one uniform funding stream administered by local departments of Social Services; eliminate confusing dual subsidy administration locally; focus on proven core services; and maximize funding for poor children.

State Sen. Michael Walters told the commission that in order to reduce poverty and encourage economic recovery there needs to be a study of what occurred in Robeson County before there was any system of land use planning.

“We have to correct the past,” he said. “Until the 1980s, there was no planning board in Robeson County. There was sporadic growth.”

Walters said that jobs need to be created and that infrastructure needs to be looked into so that when opportunities arise people can be employed with businesses moving into the county or existing businesses expanding their operations. He also said that the school system needs to be examined to ensure that students are receiving a quality education.

Jimmy Gilchrist, head of the local Black Caucus, blamed Robeson County officials for not doing enough with available funding to better the lives of county residents.

“My concern is that with all the money flowing into the county we are still at the bottom,” he said. “My concern is that the money goes to those at the top and never returns to the people at the bottom.”

The Rev. Mac Legerton, director of the Center for Community Action in Lumberton and a commission member, said that he is going to recommend that the state form six regional study commissions — three in the east, two in the mountains and one intercity — to look into issues related to poverty and economic recovery. He said that each regional commission should receive $50,000 to operate.

“Regional commissions would bring us closer to home,” Legerton said. “There are a lot of ideas being brought to the table ... . This is just the beginning of our effort to fight poverty.”

Commission member Earl Jones, a state representative from Guilford County, said he is going to recommend that a study be done to find out why Robeson County has the highest poverty rate in the state. He said he also plans to recommend that Robeson County be state funded as the site of a pilot program aimed at reducing poverty.

Pierce seemed pleased after the forum.

“I was especially enlightened by the young people who spoke today,” Pierce said. “They gave us hope. They haven’t given up. They are our future.”

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nokidding
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March 17, 2010
Osure and Wavygravy are right, not Ross. His entire objective is to get attention by starting fights. Then again, that seems to be the whole tone of the Tea Party movement.
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 16, 2010
Lets do this my friends... On the census forms we fill out this week, write down your party affiliation next to your name and social security number... This is how we will be governed from here on out, each by their political party. If you believe in the democrat way of thinking/living... HAVE AT IT! And Conservative Republicans same thing my friends. We'll live by our rules and regs, taxes and kegs, and yall dems do the same, tax yourselves into obliviation, but don't come crying to us when your lives and neighborhoods look like any other democrat ran state, city or community... Detroit, New Orleans, Sanfrancisco, Cleavland, or Oakland anyone?.... Good grief.....
osure
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March 16, 2010
wavygravy1... you are absolutely right. I could respond to every post by Ross and prove him wrong every time. But that would get us away from the article. I will not respond to his ridiculous rantings anymore.

Please accept my apologies and I will stick to discussing the contents of the article.

Thanks for your comment and reeling me back in.
wavygravy1
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March 15, 2010
I thin the best way to have a discussion about these articles is to completely disregard Mr Ross at this point.Seems so much enrgy is being directed at proving his absurdities and Hypocrysies, No one is talking about the ARTICLE.

As for me I think these panels and studies are uselful, to a point . Have to make sure that the results are not skewed by an underlying intention.

We cannot find our way out of a hole until we determine how we got in it.
nokidding
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March 15, 2010
Hey, Rossisright off in the head, did children born into poverty make a choice to be poor? And so what if they did? By your "reasoning" in attacking the democratic party for not treating people as all equal, people who choose to be poor should be treated the same as those who are rich. And by the way, I assume that you have chosen to be a multimillionaire since economic status is a choice. That might explain why you always have so much time to be yapping on this site.
osure
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March 15, 2010
Ross... you said, "The word "injustice" has no meaning...invented for political uses only..."

Merriam-webster defines injustice as "1. absence of justice: violation of right or of the rights of another. 2. an unjust act."

Also it dates the word to the 14th century.

Again... you are wrong.

And about the war? You said we were attacked. Yes, we were but not by Saddaam and Iraq. Bin Laden admitted to it. Bin Laden is still roaming free, by the way.

Bush said in an interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, on Sept. 6, 2006, "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."

In Washington, DC on 9/13/2001 he said, "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."

Then in Washington, DC on 3/13/2002 (6 months later) he said, "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

And here's the kicker, Ross... when he was asked whether the war on terror was winnable, in a "Today" show interview, on Aug. 30, 2004 he said, "Can we win? I don't think you can win it."

Also, when questioned on the biggest regret of his presidency, by ABC News on Dec. 1, 2008, he said, "I think I was unprepared for war."

GladToHearIt
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March 15, 2010
if it was only that simple...
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 14, 2010
I can't help it, one more and I'll let it be...

"glad",... do YOU really think someone wants to be obese, or do you think someone wants to have an unkept yard?... THEY allowed it to happen...

Same goes for being poor....
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 14, 2010
Well, gladto, lets hear it... then why do people make the decisions that put them in poverty?

Disclaimer: not talking about the sick, elderly or the disabled.

Also on the war,... ma'm we were attackted, and the cost?, FREEDOM AIN'T FREE.

"winnable", "Vietnam"... This is AMERICA, we've never lost a war.

Stop making excuses for Obama, he said he was gonna get this country back on track the day he took office, now you're saying he can't do it 4 years. How many do you think it'll take? Waiting on your answer... and so are 9 million people who have lost their jobs.
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 14, 2010
The word "injustice" has no meaning. It's in the same catagory as "hyphenated Americans", invented for political uses only...
GladToHearIt
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March 14, 2010
poverty is not a choice - do you really think someone wants to be poor? how can we spend billions of dollars on a war that is similiar to Vietnam - not winnable, not popular and our reasons for being over there are questionable... any president coming into the mess that Bush left behind will not be popular nor will be able to make much change in a 4 year term...
anonymous
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March 14, 2010
free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice = fairer
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 14, 2010
"gladto" Think real hard and be honest, consult your bible if necessary,... but, barring any mental, physical dissability, or life altering event that prohibits you from working, who's fault is it if YOU live in poverty?.. Poverty is a choice, you choose to live in it or you choose to get out of it. Hard working people don't care what others do with their lives, by nature we're not "nosey busy-bodies" running around telling people what to do. We don't have time to, we work and the responsibility of our own family is enough to try and handle... But, (you knew it was coming) that was before entitlement programs that take half the money we earn. When the gov't takes that much of our earned money they force us to get involved and speak out. If we didn't have to fund others lives, they could do whatever they wanted. Entitlements destroy communities, makes single moms, removes the need for family or the dad to be around. And "Poverty is more apparent now due to the recession".....NO. It's due to our current President. Businesses will not hire when they don't know what new taxes or penalties/fines are coming from the Obama administration. He also keeps extending the unemployment benefits, and he also has rolled back some of the welfare cuts passed in 96. Add all these up and there you have it RECESSION.
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 14, 2010
"stargun" sir.. That's unfortunate that you have "fostered a number of unfortunates". I love to explain the definition of FORTUNATE when someone misuses the word. It means: to win something by chance, lucky, found, to gain without your input. So all the people (according to the way you used the word) that have good paying jobs, found them, they were just lucky, they got the job without even trying?... No they didn't, it took years of hard work, school, maybe working 2 jobs while going to school at night. Years of living by the law, no felonies, no drugs, etc... All this while others were going to clubs, having babies, drinking, drugging, partying without a care that the future is a few years away. Then they wake up, they're 46 y/o and all of a sudden it's too late. The fellow they laughed at 20 years ago because they thought he was nerd going to college instead of the club with you, IS NOW YOUR BOSS. He's EARNED wealth, homes, a great wife and kids and now he's called "lucky" or "fortunate"....? If you have 4 in the home now w/o "fathers" and you opened your home and your heart, GREAT, but don't let it anger you that others are not in your shoes. YOU took em in, it's like the person in church who puts a $5 dollar bill in the collection plate, and talks/brags and then complains about it, cause everybody else only put a dollar in. Be proud of what your doing. And this part about getting paid for what you're worth?... If you have skills needed in society you will be paid more, if you don't have a needed skill, you'll live on minimum wage the rest of your life. and "fairer distribution of profit"? 1.fair is a weather term. 2.distribution is what the gov't does with other peoples money. 3.Profit is earned not given, found, stolen, or yours.
nokidding
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March 14, 2010
Maybe we need a commission to study why this commission had a meeting in the middle of the day when only those who weren't working or otherwise had a job fighting poverty were able to attend. What, they didn't want to hear from the working poor? Speaking of which, if transportation is such an issue then how were all those poor people without jobs able to get to a meeting out at the community college? This was nothing more than a publicity stunt in order to get votes and foundation funding.
GladToHearIt
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March 13, 2010
If poverty was that simple to solve - it would have been solved years ago. Poverty is more apparent now due to the recession...
BBBD
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March 13, 2010
"Bottom pay," entry-level pay, and minimum wage are NOT meant to support a family of four. The idea is that these jobs exist to provide the opportunity for higher paying jobs in the future.

With the overly generous entitlements handed out by the government and the success-punishing income tax system in this country, it makes it easier to stay poor and hate rich people rather than work hard to earn more. Fair Tax is a big step in the right direction - making things better for EVERYONE.
stargun1
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March 13, 2010
mr right; for the record i have fostered a number of unfortunates for varying amonts of time, and have four in the home now for a short period that are without fathers for various reasons to try and give a bit better quality of life without any form of government support for any of them. the point was that at the bottom pay is not adequate for a single person to accomadate any number of children and unfortunately too many are of single parent families. i feel a fairer distribution of profit would benefit society as a whole and that some folks do not need as much as they think they need.
ROSSisRIGHT
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March 13, 2010
"STARGUN" Yes sir the hard work is done at the bottom, and the upper tier live comfortable in their two houses... If you have a problem with this, then it would behoove you to get off the bottom and make it to the top, on your own. And if you depend on other taxpayers to feed your children, you should be ashamed. One more, if you don't like your employer... quit! It aint your job anyway, it's the employers job, he allowed you have it.
stargun1
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March 13, 2010
people who work need adequate pay to support themselves and possible dependents. too many employers see only the upper tier of employees as those who should live comfortable lives. the hard work is at the bottom. too many have two or more houses while others live in trailers. they live large while employees depend on the government to feed their children. what will happen in the years to come? who pays for this...
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