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Citizens group urging protest
by Bob Shiles
Staff writer
Feb 17, 2013 | 519359 views | 21 21 comments | 14 14 recommendations | email to a friend | print

LUMBERTON — Lynn Locklear is unhappy with the way the county government operates — and he is asking other residents who feel the same way to show up Monday at the Board of Commissioners meeting in a sign of protest.

“A lot of people are voicing frustration,” said Locklear, who is a member of a group called Citizens for Integrity in Government. “But their response is always that they can’t bring about change. They say that Robeson County has always been that way. It’s hard to get people to engage in the political scene, even when it’s obvious that things are not working.”

The meeting begins at 6 p.m. at the county administration building on North Elm Street.

Locklear contends that change can be brought about in how government reacts to the needs of county residents if people get involved. In a letter to the editor of The Robesonian last month, Locklear called on those in Robeson County wanting fiscal reform and accountability in government to attend Monday’s meeting. He is also upset with a decision by the county to allow a sand-mining operation in the Philadelphus community.

“Citizens, you have the power to bring about fiscal reform,” Locklear wrote in the letter. “Are you satisfied with the commissioners’ performance? Are you satisfied with the performance, delivery, and quality of county services and programs?”

In the same letter, Locklear wrote that in November he had called on Commissioner Raymond Cummings, in whose District 4 he resides, to lead in fiscal reform following a study comparing salary and benefits Robeson County commissioners receive with benefits received by commissioners in surrounding counties. The Robesonian last year ran a series of stories and editorials on the commissioners’ pay and stipends, the fourth highest in the state when combined; their $320,000 a year discretionary funds; and their benefits, including retirement and health insurance, which are better than that provided county employees. The commissioners ditched a deferred compensation plan when the public became aware they had adopted a plan that allowed them to continue to draw salary after they left office.

“Citizens, Mr. Cummings’ strategy, with the other commissioners supporting, is to ignore the issue and hope it goes away,” Locklear wrote. “Hope is not a viable course of action.”

Locklear said he doesn’t know how many county residents will attend the meeting, but that he plans to challenge the commissioners to defend their position on all of their benefits, including health, retirement, salaries, travel and discretionary funds.

Locklear expects to speak during the public comment part of the meeting, and he’s not happy that policy forbids the commissioners from answering his concerns. He also hopes the commissioners will allow those wishing to speak more than the usual three minutes some leeway.

“We want to raise issues of concern in a public forum and have the issues addressed in a public forum,” Locklear said. “If they can defend their positions on the issues, that’s fine.”

County Manager Ricky Harris said the room would accommodate about 80 people, and if there is an overflow crowd he will have staff bring in portable chairs to the extent that is possible.

Included in other business, the commissioners on Monday will:

— Hold a public hearing on Project 77, a company that is planning to make a $5 million investment in the county for equipment and machinery. The company plans to create 77 jobs that will pay an average of $12.30 an hour.

— Consider approval of a proposal for risk management consulting retainer services.

— Consider a resolution honoring fallen firefighter Samuel “Sam” Butler Jr.

— Consider approval of miscellaneous vehicles to be sold as surplus.

— Consider charging 25 cents per page when the public asks for copies of documents that are public record. The policy would not apply to requests to the Register of Deeds Office or other offices for which the state may govern the cost.



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JohnHopkins
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February 19, 2013
Couldnt take it anymore huh, Mr. Douglas? You opened the forum by publishing the article and giving us the NEWS. Now you don't just want to report it, but judge also. It appears you aren't Ok with opposing views. I'm sure those folks working in the County Admin office appreciate your solution of having everyone stop by and ask for a form to get some funds. That wouldn't create too much of a hassle(Sarcastic Voice of course). In answer to your question about health insurance, if that has been done for years, why is just NOW being reported and just now such a big deal??? Is it just NOW becoming news or is it possible that there's something personal between yourself and Mr. Cummings. I don't agree with it, but it's not like it was just put into place or that these commissioners are the ones who initially voted in this back room. Who were THOSE commissioners, let's ask them why we've been doing it this way for sooooo long. No, these commissioners aren't perfect, but they are trying to manage funds for one of the largest counties in the state and should be paid for their services.
CoolChange
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February 19, 2013
If you have something to say, just say it!

You can't very well deal with or report issues until you know about them. I am glad that there is a forum that gives insight to the goings on in county government. I am not happy with the state of our county and haven't been for a long time but I still have hope that we can one day make changes that will make things better for future robesonians.

If we keep on doing the same old, tired things and expect different results then we are what? Insane?

Looks at where Robeson County stands in many of the metrics in the state and then tell me if you really believe that everything is okay!

I have always loved home but it seems to be losing some of its attraction as I grow older and learn more about how backwards we are in some respects!

friendsofphiladelphus@hotmail.com
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February 18, 2013
Hey taxpayers! Hal Kinlaw and Raymond Cummings want you to fund a bond to help the T- shirt company, metcon and the lawyers fund the Sand Mine. Our district did not want it but they plan to make the taxpayers pay all the money to make sure their project goes thru! Green is the new government of Robeson County! We will appeal and fight Raymond all the way! Saw you with your friends from Charlotte while the citizens in your district were fighting to protect their homes! Sleep tight!
JohnHopkins
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February 18, 2013
So we now want to line item those donations in the budget, which would then make them the County's responsibility...that makes sense, NOT!!!!! Imagine that for a second, we add up all of the various county teams(basketball, baseball, football, soccer, cheerleading, etc., etc., etc.) and give them a line item in the county budget. Next we county up all of the local fire depts and give them a line item in the budget. Then we do the same for the local churches. Next we do that for the schools and each of there teams(boys & girls). Then we move on to the non-profits seeking assistance.......Where would it end? That's why it's in the discretionary fund. It is inconceivable for the county to help everybody everytime. That's why it's basically on a first come basis at the discretion of each commissioner. The Robesonian has now made everyone aware that the funds are there for assistance with VALID organizations who need it. All that remains is for folks to ask.

John Hopkins

So we are clear, we have never argued the fund should be abolished. We have argued against the size of the fund, and how it is administered. Other counties do w/o it. Requests could be made at the county administration office by filling out a form, and then the commissioners could vote on it. That way there is a record.

A lot of it could be taken care of by properly funding departments, but the money isn't there, at least in part b/c our commissioners are among the highest paid in the state. Do you think it is OK for the commissioners to have free health insurance for them and their family, when employees are paying $300 a month for the same benefit, and do you think it is OK for the commissioners to have it set up where they will continue to get health insurance after they leave office. And do you think it is OK for them to have piled up all these benefits in closed session without a public vote?

Donnie Douglas

Editor

The Robesonian
PercyKution
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February 18, 2013
And YOU should be on the top of the list "asking": FOR MENTAL HEALTH HELP AND A FREE TRIP TO A NERVOUS HOSPITAL.
CoolChange
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February 19, 2013
johnHopkins,

You said it, "various county teams".

That's right! the county should properly fund county run programs or else they shouldn't have them! The recreation department employees take a lot of heat about how poorly the leagues are run but they are doing all they can do with the limited resources that they are given.

One of the top priorities of a governing body or management team is to make sure that workers, employees, etc. have the resources they need to get the job done. If those resources are not sufficient then the employees cannot be held accountable for the results. Our county youth recreation programs are poorly funded, yet our commissioners have significant funds avaliable to use at their discretion.

I say take care of the items that need to be taken care of in the budgeting process and if there are funds left over then let the commissioners vote on how to allocate them.

Providing funds on a first come basis is not smart! There are always those who know how to work the system.

This is evident in the fact that some individuals and groups continue to get funds every year from the same commissioners. Sounds like they already have a line in the budget!

It would be nice if the commissioners would at least develop a set of criteria that they could share with the public that states the conditions that must be met in order for funds to be distributed to the public!

In the end, I agree that the county should not try to take care of everything. I am a taxpayer and I have my own finances to worry about and I don't want my tax dollars in the hands of incompetent individuals! I don't think that anyone in the county will disagree with that statement.
OMG84
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February 18, 2013
autumn12...

Quit reading it lol simple as that!

And by the way did you know that THE ROBESONIAN employees 125 robeson county citizens!

Silly rabbit tricks are for kids! Not only do you want to BOYCOTT the robesonian, sounds like you also want those 125 employees to loose their jobs and have the COMMISSIONERS take care of us too, like they are you!

Unfortunately, I am not a senior citizen nor do I have 6 kids nor do I draw any kind of ss check or disability... Not knocking the ones that do but

I WORK! I DO NOT RECEIVE ANY KIND OF HELP and yet I am paying taxes so they can sponsor senior citizens who drive 2011 Cadillacs or 2010 Lincoln town cars and want to be social butterflies.

Sorry, call me whatever you want but in this life if you don't like what you have work harder and if you can't work call the COMMISSIONERS, they are sure to HELP you out, if its ELECTION TIME!
JohnHopkins
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February 18, 2013
No Percy, I have nothing to gain and I'm not one of the commissioners, nor am I "in bed" with one of them. I just haven't seen any facts about misuse of funds, misappropriation of funds, embezzlement of funds, or anything of that sort. Only an "OMG they have a 40K discretionary fund!!!" We see that and everybody starts running around pointing fingers. My County Commissioner (Mr. Cummings, by the way) has paid to have the lights turned on at the local baseball field from this fund on more than one occasion. He has purchased countless youth sports uniforms and they have all assisted with some of youth league's travel expenses. By the way, I'm a Born again believer and Sunday School Teacher who is for marriage only between and man & woman, but that's a discussion for another time. God Bless You PercyKution and I hope he helps rid you of your hatred and paranoia. Take care all.
CoolChange
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February 18, 2013
You are describing one of the issues that a lot of people are complaining about.

Raymond Cummings has contributed to "certain" ball teams in his district while providing no help to others. If all of the parents are taxpayers and some of their children get county funds while others don't then that's a problem.

Cummings answer to this is that he has already given money to another team!

It is called a discretionary fund and a lot of people have a big issue with it because some of the county commissioners don't show very good judgement.

Electrical power is a line item on the budget for running the county's recreational facilities, or it should be. Why isn't power budgeted for? Why does a commissioner have to raid a discretionary fund to pay for lights?

In the end, it is sad that we have to be talking about our commissioners like this. I only hope that we have better candidates next go round and that voters turn out to elect qualified representation.
ReallyRobeson?
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February 18, 2013
You gotta give it to our leaders. Limiting the attendance to 80 or so citizens with 3 minute time limits will sure help keep them from being subjected to info they don't want to hear won't it? They'll probably make sure a large % of those in attendance are their supporters thus skewing the bad press they're receiving. Pretty smart.

To those supporters I would point out that most criticism of the discretionary funds is directed at the fact that it is not voted on by the entire Board but rather can be accumulated by an individual then spent without any further oversight.

I say keep the $ there but roll it into the general fund and allocate it to these same people who are extolling its benefits but do so in a more transparent manner than the current method.

Good job Robesonian. Keep at it!
autumn12
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February 18, 2013
I will be at this meeting to let everyone know how much money our commissioners give in our county! I live on a fixed income, evidently Mr. Douglas or Mr. Lynn Locklear does not, I am a Senior Citizen of Robeson County and I participate in several programs that are funded by ALL commissioners. If anyone has had children grow up and play any sports you know that commissioners have funded bats, uniforms, sponsored teams and have funded several school events and activities. What is wrong with the people of Robeson County. I remember when the whites had all the control and the commissioners fund was way more than it is now, nobody complained then. Why didnt you write bad things about all the money when the whites had all the control. Mr. Lynn why are you so against 40 jobs coming to the county. I just dont understand. We need to just boycott the Robesonian, I get tired of reading this trash!
BBBD
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February 18, 2013
They don't give any money to the county. The money is taken from citizens in the county AMD the redistributed by commissioners at their discretion. It was our money to begin with. We also wouldn't need you to inform us of how the money is redistributed if they had to hold a vote before allocating it.
EducatedLiberalFool
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February 18, 2013
Autumn12,

I dont know Mr. Lynn but I support his efforts and hope to learn more about him. Please note:

* The Citizens give that money not the commissioners.

* As a Senior Citizen, you should be using your own hard earned money that you saved to participate in programs, not the citizens money especially in the greatest depression since FDR occupied the White House according to President Obama.

* Are you a racist? Quit living for the past and start living for the future. Two wrongs dont make a right. We are all in this together now.

* What jobs? What are their job titles, what salary will they pay, will people in this county be hired to fill these jobs what are the gurantees from our Commissioners? No one has identified the details.

* What about Chris Baxley? You forget him? What about his due process? Would you want 300 trucks a day going by your front door after you spend your life savings to buy some land to build a home in a area zoned agriculture residential?

* Whatever is wrong with the people of Robeson County, you must have it.

* Wake up and see what is going one around you.
PercyKution
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February 18, 2013
If there was a pack of mad dogs with rabies running around Robeson County what would you do about it? Take a "vote" on it? I don't think these COCKROACH CLOWNMISSIONERS are any different at all. So what are you going to do about them?
JohnHopkins
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February 18, 2013
I am the only one who is T-I-R-E-D of The Robesonian reporting about Commissioners Pay????? Really, we get it, but enough is enough. First of all, The Robesonian doesn't know anything except how much the discretionary fund is. I haven't seen any reports breaking down how these Commissioners are stealing ANYTHING. Has anyone else seen that? Give it a rest PLEASSSEEE!!!! These aren't news articles that we're reading in this paper, they're flyers and invitations to a lynching and The Robesonian should be ashamed. If there are indeed facts of misuse of the funds, then by all means print them. If not, just move on. Thank you.
PercyKution
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February 18, 2013
YOU are a CERTIFIED FOOL. THE ROBESONIAN, MR. Donnie Douglas and MR. Bob Shiles are the BEST thing that's ever happened to Robeson County since the late great Julian Pierce and Adolph Dial. If it wasn't for THE ROBESONIAN, THE PEOPLE would know NOTHING of the COCKROACH CLOWNMISSIONERS felonious SCAMS. YOU must be either one of the COCKROACHES or IN BED WITH ONE OF THEM. YOURS is the ONLY letter taking up for the COCKROACHES. What does that say about YOU and YOUR lack of common sense? And YOU are probably one of those same-sex marriage democrats, too. All the COCKROACH CLOWNMISSIONERS but 1 are, and that 1 might as well be.
TravestyOfJustice
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February 18, 2013
Are you from this county? If you are, and you pay property tax, sales tax, vehicle tax, etc., you should be concerned with what is being reported. I, as a gainfully employed citizen of Rob-Someone Co, am tired of MY hard earned dollars going into a slush fund to be spent as this den of thieves dictate. These convict-ioners have proven that they cannot be trusted to make the decisions that are in the best interest of their constituents. Where is the shame in reporting the truth? Maybe not everyone is productive members of society. If it wasn't my money, I probably wold not care either. Just Saying....

Then again, yes I would care even then, because it would be my families money being squandered.
TroubledCiziten
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February 18, 2013
No JohnHopkins, You aren't the only one that is tired of the Robesonian posting only negative material concerning the commissioners. My wish is that the Robesonian post the Good with as much foucus as they have on the Commissioners Pay and Benefits, but NO...they never, because it doesn't SELL papers like the LIES they tell does
locklik
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February 17, 2013
Yes the county is allowing all that goes on. It is time for a change. We can do this together. Show up to the meeting. It is a start.,
MrBob
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February 17, 2013
The reason all level of government is corrupt is because we allow it. Its not the politicans fault..its the peoples fault. Its sad more people vote for the next american idol than a governor, senator, president or any other politican.
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