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County gets call on sand mining
by Bob Shiles
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Sand mining is proposed for the property near Philadelphus where this millpond is located. Residents and others have raised concerns about the possibility of the mining disturbing the pond and its surroundings. | Contributed photo
Sand mining is proposed for the property near Philadelphus where this millpond is located. Residents and others have raised concerns about the possibility of the mining disturbing the pond and its surroundings. | Contributed photo
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LUMBERTON — The mayor of Red Springs and Robeson County’s manager appear to have conflicting opinions on granting a conditional-use permit to a development company that wants to mine sand on 120 acres off Buie-Philadelphus Road.

County Manager Ricky Harris says that a mining operation proposed by Buie Lakes Plantation LLC offers several “positives” for the county.

“They will create 36 good-paying jobs. They are asking for no tax relief. They are asking for no free land,” Harris said. “They would start paying taxes the day they start doing business.”

Harris cautions, however, that his opinion is not necessarily that of the county commissioners, who will make the decision.

John McNeill, mayor of Red Springs, doesn’t think the company will construct a proposed $22 million processing building on the property that will clean and dry the sand before it’s transferred by truck to various glass manufacturers, including Pilkington glass in Laurinburg.

“This is nothing personal,” McNeill said. “My opinion is based with our experience with this company over the past four or five years.”

The county Board of Commissioners is expected to consider Monday a request by Buie Lakes for a conditional-use permit to allow sand mining on 120 acres in a Residential-Agricultural zone. The 120 acres, which abuts Philadelphus Presbyterian Church, are part of a larger tract encompassing a little more than 500 acres.

Craig Brewer, a managing partner with the development company, said Buie Lakes received a 10-year mining permit from the state on Feb. 2, 2009. He said that a rare crystalline silica that is low in iron and used for such purposes as making solar panels will be mined at the site.

“This is a great project. There is a market for low-iron sand,” Brewer said. “It is used in the glass of skyscrapers, cars and every kind of building. It is also used to make solar panels.”

The processing facility would create up to 36 permanent jobs and an estimated $1.6 million annual payroll, Brewer said, and the company would pay $231,000 in county taxes and $30,000 in fire district taxes each year.

Brewer said site would be screened and buffered so it would not be an eyesore, and insists that the millpond on the property will not be disturbed. But McNeill told The Robesonian on Friday that the county commissioners should be careful.

“First, the project is not real. Second, the Robeson County Board of Commissioners needs to ask for verification — perhaps by the N.C. Department of Commerce — on the feasibility of this group developing this project,” McNeill said. “Last, the Board of Commissioners needs to take a long and hard look at this, and if they do pass it, they need to have every possible safeguard in place to protect the residents in that area and the county.” McNeill said that the property was annexed by Red Springs in January 2008 after the developers proposed an upscale subdivision.In October 2010, the Red Springs Board of Commissioners denied the development company’s request for an amendment to the town’s zoning ordinance that would allow mining as a conditional use on land zoned Agricultural-Residential. The commissioners voted 3 to 3, with McNeill casting the fourth negative vote. The propery was later de-annexed. McNeill said that during his town’s dealings with Buie Lakes, questions surfaced about the company and its plans for developing the property.

“First, we learned in Red Springs that this group plans on selling this project to an investment group in Florida once they obtain the zoning changes,” McNeill said. “Buie Lakes Plantation never volunteered this, but the attorney from the Florida group called me prior to our public hearing and informed me that the current shareholders would be only minority shareholders after the buyout with no control of the project.”

Brewer, however, said Friday that his company doesn’t plan to sell the property and is moving ahead to develop the $22 million processing facility.

“Advertisements for selling the property were placed three to five years ago, before we knew what we were going to do with the property,” he said.

McNeill also questions why the developers aren’t seeking economic development incentives from the state and county.

“They are not asking for any economic incentives when they potentially could obtain $4 million in incentive,” he said. “That’s unusual. With the incentives they could fund up to 20 percent of their project’s cost.”

Brewer said that his company had applied to the state for incentives, but was told it did not qualify.

“Our type of project is not funded by the state,” Brewer said. “We would have to fill up bags of concrete, like those they sell at Lowe’s, in order to be eligible for incentives.”

Commissioner Raymond Cummings said Friday that the sand-mining operation “sounds interesting.” The property to be mined is in his district.

Cummings didn’t say if he plans to vote in favor of the conditional-use permit, but said that construction jobs and permanent jobs created by the project “might be significant.”

“I know the community has some concerns,” he said. “I’m looking forward to hearing the proposal and concerns of the citizens.”

Last month, the county Planning Board approved the developer’s request for the conditional-use permit. During a public hearing, 17 property owners raised their hands when asked by the Planning Board chairman if there was any opposition to the developer’s proposal.

Concerns of property owners included how the site would operate; how the millpond and surrounding natural habitat would be affected; what would the effect be on property values; and what would be the possible damage to an area believed to be the burial site of Virginia Dare, the first child born in America to English parents. Health questions were also raised.

In other business, the commissioners on Monday will:

— Hold a public hearing on a request by Helping Hands Ministries for a conditional-use permit that will allow for the establishment of a church cemetery in a Residential-Agricultural district.

— Designate a voting delegate for the N.C. Association of County Commissioners conference.

— Consider the annual contract between the county’s Department of Social Services and the Southeast Area Transit System.

The meeting begins at 6 p.m. in the commissioners room of the county administrative building on North Elm Street.

Reach staff writer Bob Shiles at 910-272-6117 or bshiles@heartlandpublications.com.

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teke299
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July 03, 2012
The only thing I can say about this mining is that this is a residential area. I built my house here in 2007. I wanted to be in the country, see nature and wildlife in its own habitat. I do not want to walk out my front door and see an industry across the street. I think Mr. Grady Hunt should be ashamed of himself, to be representing this company.
CommonSense87
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July 03, 2012
The people of Robeson County amaze me sometimes. First, they complain that there are no jobs here, then fight like Hades anytime a new industry wants to come to town. I guess it goes back to the NIMBY principle. For those that don't know, that stands for "Not in My Back Yard." The same reason we can't get any new oil refineries built or have so much trouble getting new nuclear reactors online anywhere in the US. Sometimes Robeson County can't get out of its own way.
ReedyQLewis
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July 02, 2012
Now I don't personally know this Harris fellow, but it seems to me like every time theres a decision to be made, he steers everybody towards the commissioners. Heck, if the county needed a puppet, they coulda put Howdy Doody in there instead of paying that guy $150,000! For what, to sit there and grin? If he's gonna lead, then doggone it needs to lead, not follow!
malford12
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July 01, 2012
Mr. McNeill is right the county commissions should be very cautious about this company mining in Philadelphus. So why not go and ask for verification from NC Department of Commerce,etc, etc, and take the time and do it right. You know why it's already a done deal. I feel so sorry for the residents of Philadelphus they deserve better than this,just look at that land and that millpond it's been there for over a hundred years and untouch. 17 property owners have already said no to this, leave this place along county's commissioners.
PointofBeginning
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July 01, 2012
The commissioners would be wise to table this issue until an independent study can be conducted. The sand has been there for years, a few more months won't hurt. I just cant believe that they are planning a $22 MILLION, MILLION mind-you, facility.

Mr. Raymond Cummings is in the hot seat, one thing that is true, if he votes yes, when he's up for re-election this area votes NO!
trutalk
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July 01, 2012
There are a lot of choices that the mayor and council in Red Springs make that I do not agree with... However, this is one time I must stand with him. From day one, this group and their project has up to no good. I strongly suggest that the commissioners do their research and not make a quick decision like the Med1 decision. Don't end up in a pit that will cost you your seat next election.
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I agree with you MadeInBladen. I don't have a problem with them giving money to the communities. Its easy to say what you would do when you're not in that position. Looks like we have a bunch of armchair quarterbacks around here.
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Why get rid of the funds, What about the kids who want to play little league and can't afford it? I understand that the commissioners know that it is the taxpayers money and it is going back to the community.
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I agree with you MadeInBladen. I don't have a problem with them giving money to the communities. Its easy to say what you would do when you're not in that position. Looks like we have a bunch of armchair quarterbacks around here.
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June 18, 2013
Why get rid of the funds, What about the kids who want to play little league and can't afford it? I understand that the commissioners know that it is the taxpayers money and it is going back to the community.