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House panel debates bill that would put tax on video games
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Gary D. Robertson

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Taxing video gaming could generate more than $300 million a year in tax revenues for the state, money some legislators want for education. But Republicans, who control both houses of the General Assembly, are cool to the idea. | Associated Press
Taxing video gaming could generate more than $300 million a year in tax revenues for the state, money some legislators want for education. But Republicans, who control both houses of the General Assembly, are cool to the idea. | Associated Press
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RALEIGH — A state House committee debated a bill Thursday to tax North Carolina video sweepstakes outlets, but its passage still looks like a long shot in the session’s final days because many legislators oppose the computer terminals, which often mimic casino games.

Democrats and Republicans who sponsored the measure said establishing state privilege taxes on sweepstakes establishments would mean regulation for an industry that’s been growing since the state Court of Appeals struck down the Legislature’s 2010 ban on the games. The measure also would establish a uniform privilege tax on outlets for counties and cities. Cities already have the taxing authority.

The House Finance Committee adjourned before taking a vote. It’s unclear if the bill will be heard again before the Legislature adjourns for the year, probably around July 2. Republican leaders in the Senate have said they’re not interested in the idea.

The March appeals court ruling, which found the 2010 law to be overbroad and an infringement on the free speech rights of operators, is being appealed to the state Supreme Court.

Rep. Bill Owens, D-Pasquotank, one of the bill’s primary sponsors, envisions the future revenue as a way to make up for the refusal of Republican lawmakers to raise sales taxes to help reduce public education cuts. Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue also suggested the Legislature consider the idea as long as the state can’t ban them outright.

“We have tried as a General Assembly to regulate them and outlaw them, and it hasn’t worked,” Owens said during the committee meeting. “So now is the time we have to put up or shut up as far as education is concerned and that’s exactly what it is, a tough call.”

A fiscal analysis of the bill by the Legislature’s nonpartisan staff estimated the state could take in anywhere from $98 million to $329 million annually if the bill passed. All counties also would generate new revenue, the analysis said.

Sweepstakes machines can be found in convenience stores, business centers or stand-alone parlors. Patrons buy Internet or phone time that gives them the opportunity to uncover potential cash and prizes with mouse clicks on a computer screen.

Sweepstakes boosters say no gambling is occurring because the prize or lack of one is predetermined. But opponents say they feed the same gambling addictions for people as traditional video poker machines did until they were banned in 2007. That ban has remained in place.

“This is video larceny,” said Democratic Rep. Frank McGuirt, the former Union County sheriff. “I have a problem with bringing some legitimacy to these machines.”

Owens said after the committee meeting that his final support of the state budget could be guided by what happens on the sweepstakes bill. A few hours later, he remained among five Democrats who voted for the budget compromise now heading to Perdue’s desk. He may have to vote again if Perdue vetoes the budget and the Legislature tries to override.

If the sweepstakes bill “passes and we get few other details worked out, I’ll probably support the budget,” he said. “If it doesn’t, I’ll have to weigh my conscience.”

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lolsmileyface
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June 24, 2012
link to the deception:

http://www.sweepstakesmachines.com/faq#faq-gambling
lolsmileyface
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June 24, 2012
This really proves that these "poloticians" are on the "take" the sweepstakes buisness, if it really was legal would be incorporated in all 50 states. Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor here you have the opposite. I work in an "internet cafe" and not only do people play these games with cash but they also use their food stamp cards...ha ha state legislators and city or county commissioners dont care they want cash....cash and more cash. It pays to be a politician ha ha my brother is one....
tellingitlikeitis
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June 22, 2012
I am going to chalk this up to ignorance....You mean to tell me that people will drop 100's, even thousands of dollars in a machine only for phone and telephone time. PLEASE. These companies are paying out large jackpots and raking in larger monies from it's customers. Owens is fighting so hard because he is getting his palms greased by the industry. Don't forget Jim Black...... The industry took him down and it will take others down too. Just look at the individuals who play the machines and you will know it's not fair. Lottery isn't helping schools and neither will this. The love of money.
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anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.
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anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.
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anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.
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anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.
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anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.
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anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.
anonymous
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June 19, 2013
A step in the right direction. The funds should be eliminated and either reflected in lower taxes or made a part of the general fund. While there is more transparency with the voting, the funds can still be used to buy votes, and that's a problem.
Oldrangersgt
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June 19, 2013
While I know this mans family is in mourning, the unavoidable fact is that bad choices were made and he unfortunately reaped the consequences. That's one BIG problem we have today....no one wants to accept the responsibility for their actions, but looks for any and everything else to blame. So far I've seen racism blamed in this article (I don't know this man, nor his race, nor did the article mention it), and I've see "he was fun loving". Got news for you...being out at 2 in the morning, drunk and running from the law is nobody's idea of fun. For you family members, you could best serve your relative's memory by starting a campaign on the dangers of alcohol abuse and DUI. Then you will get the respect you are screaming for, and perhaps your loved ones death won't have been in vain.
sagehopper
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June 19, 2013
This can bring some problems..Living in Nevada, where we had NO speed limits on the open highways for years, Was a mixed bag. We got somewhere fast,,,and the accidents, when they happened were almost invariably fatal ones. In NC, where you have probably 50 inches of rain per year, it would be disastrous. A car going 75 on a road with a tiny amount of moisture, will hydroplane..making that car a 4,000 pound mis-guided missile. I have been in a hydroplaning car at 35 mph...It is scary..They better think about this B4 doing it..cause you know, and I know, some folks will go that speed limit..All such laws have "prudent speed" written into it..but somehow, it always happens anyway..
DaveD
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June 19, 2013
This is bunk. For all the supposed good it has done, the negative impacts far outweigh it. I love how she says the K-3 class sizes are smaller as 4th graders from Tanglewood are being transferred to Carroll Middle School. I'd like to know where this money is really going. Is it going to the Universities, who raise tuition rates almost annually and shouldn't get any lottery dollars? Schools seemed to be functioning better before all of the supposed lottery dollars, how in the world did they do it? (sarcasm)
Oh2Teach
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June 19, 2013
While I can understand that Lottery Director would want to defend the program that provides generous salary, to convince me or any other logical person, she will need to prove that the $23.5 million invested in the lottery by county residents in one year was returned to us in an equal or greater amount.. She cannot do that, because it was not and never will be.