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Parents: Tanglewood out of space
by Bob Shiles
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Angela Bono-Severy
Angela Bono-Severy
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Matthew Rich
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Bob Shiles

Staff writer

LUMBERTON — Parents of students at Tanglewood Elementary School say that kindergarten classes at the school are overcrowded, but according to the the system’s superintendent, steps are already being taken to fix the problem.

“For the second year in a row, we find ourselves in need of a fifth kindergarten classroom,” Angela Bono-Severy, president of Tanglewood’s PTA, told members of the Public Schools of Robeson County school board during their meeting Tuesday. “Our kindergarten classrooms were overcrowded last year, too. Last year the board was able to provide a teacher to Tanglewood, but not a place for her to teach. The school is out of space.”

Bono-Severy, who has two children at the school, a third-grader and a kindergartner, was one of four speakers to address the board concerning overcrowding at the school. All the speakers said that there needs to be a fifth kindergarten classroom established quickly.

“We, as a PTA, ask that you provide Tanglewood Elementary School with a teacher, an assistant and a new mobile unit,” Bono-Severy said. “This is the only reasonable solution.”

Johnny Hunt, the school’s superintendent, said after the meeting that he was told Monday by the school’s principal that a large conference room at the school is going to be turned into a classroom. A teacher is already available for the class, he said.

According to Bono-Severy, the student population at Tanglewood has increased from of 501 students in 2009 to its current enrollment of 574.

“In 2010, we gave up our music room to accommodate a new class. Teachers, in turn, gave up a work space to make a new music room,” she said. “The children now have music in what amounts to a large closet. Tanglewood has reconfigured and rearranged classrooms until no more options are available. We are officially out of space at Tanglewood.”

Matthew Rich, pastor of First Presbyterian Church and the father of a Tanglewood kindergarten student, told the board that the 27 students in three of Tanglewood’s kindergarten classes and 28 students in the fourth classroom exceeds the state requirement that no more than 24 students be maintained in a kindergarten classroom.

“Studies show that small class sizes, less than 20 children, in each of the first four years of school increase graduation rates for all students and nearly doubles the graduation rate of low-income children,” he said.

Rich told the board that not having the adequate space and resources for kindergarten students makes the students feel they are not wanted at the school.

“(The message is) you are not wanted here. We are not going to provide you what you need to succeed,” he said.

Josh Whitley, the father of a kindergarten student, also told the board that 27 students in a kindergarten classroom without proper resources makes it impossible for the students to receive a quality education.

“There are not enough computers available for 27 students,” he said. “All of the students cannot eat lunch together because the tables only have room for 24 students. There are less opportunities for hands-on instruction.”

Mike Smith, the school board’s chairman, said after the meeting that overcrowding at Tanglewood and other schools in the district will be addressed.

“There are other schools in similar situations,” he said. “I feel confident the administration will do its best to correct the problems.”

Board member Dwayne Smith, whose district includes Tanglewood, told The Robesonian after the meeting that the complaints raised about overcrowding and lack of resources at the school were “very legitimate.”

“I’ve seen the problems,” he said. “All they (parents) want is help.”

In other business:

— School board members were informed that the district’s Early College High School has been named as a national Blue Ribbon School for 2012. The school was one of nine in North Carolina to be receive this designation. Only 269 schools in the nation received this honor for the most recent year.

— Approved a new K-2 report card that is designed to make it easier for parents to follow their child’s academic progress.

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PD23
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September 18, 2012
As I have read the comments, one question comes to mind...why isn't every school in the county a school like Tanglewood. First of all, parental involvement is crucial. There are many schools throughout our county that have fantastic parental involvement. These schools also receive more funding based on being a Title 1 school. There are teachers in other schools throughout the county who work really hard and they have been commended for their hard work. Example....I want my child in such and such class. If parents would keep their children in the school district they live, then we wouldn't have the problems such as overcrowding in my schools. To me it is obvious that our school board members are just looking for a quick fix! One mobile unit and teacher will not solve the larger problem. Even some board members have allowed family members to attend Tanglewood versus the school district in which the child should attend. Why is this??? Is it because you are ashamed of the district you represent? Shame on you if this is the case. Many of our board members are more concerned about getting re-elected than standing up to do the right thing. Why have district lines if they are no utlizied???
rulesman2150
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September 14, 2012
If they dont live in the distict!!! Don't let them go to school there!!! Plain and simple!!! Blame the administration for letting students from all over the county enter the doors and cause the over crowding problem...Parents from other areas know that Tanglewood is the best school around and will pull all the strings to get their child in there! GO TO SCHOOL WHERE YOU LIVE!!! what happened to that???? OH YEA!!!! CONSOLIDATION!!! Thank your polititions
payoffs
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September 14, 2012
just look at even the fairmont area that send their kids to tanglewood...when the board stops doing favors then our kids will get a fair education in their own districts. How can a board tell really how bad something is if all the rich kids from the county and other cities send their kids to tanlgewood. It brings down the test scores of that school that the parents refuse to send their child too...wake up parents your kids will be eventually funneled into the high school were you can not protect them any longer. They need to learn how to make friends even if it a child that you dont approve of...someday that friend may get him or her out of a jam latter in HS. Just stop allowing kids in when they do not belong.....problem is the hospital across the street...many employees that live all over the county expect to have their kid at tanglewood.
rulesman2150
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September 14, 2012
Blame the "BOARD" & "POLITICS", they are the ones throwing all the "CRUD" in Tanglewood,....making it almost impossible for the kids that are taught well at home to be taught well at school!!!! and make it soo challenging for the Teachers.....God Bless them!!
tellingitlikeitis
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September 16, 2012
I disagree with you paysoff. What you are saying is that only "RICH" kids are smart. Teaching the importance of an education is first taught at home at an early age. Parents can't say and do anything around their children expecting positive results. All kids have an equal opportunity to learn, and excel, but it starts at home. If they can watch reality tv and learn the latest songs surely they can do well in school. It's not always the school, sometimes it's the parents.
DaveD
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September 14, 2012
One big problem is the fact that so many kids who do not even live in the district go to school there anyway. They say because their schools are so poor and that Tanglewood is so good that their kids deserve the chance to go there. Great, so because your schools suck, you send your children to Tanglewood to bring it down also... Instead of bringing down Tanglewood, why don't you parents, you know who you are, do something to help your own schools?
ROSSisRIGHT
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September 14, 2012
Watch for your childrens coats to start missing this winter. Little things too, a pencil here, a nice pen there, etc...

Stuff like this causes children to become angry and resentful at an early age. Those kids from the poorer schools come and see "other" kids with nice shoes and clothes they go home and tell mom they want the expensive nice shoes moms says no, kid gets mad. When a small group of angry kids whos moms wont buy em the shoes gang up, they're mad at "Billy" cause he's got those shoes and they start picking on "Billy", calling him names and if he's a straight A student, they call him a NERD,..well then he looses his self confidence starts avoiding those mean "new" kids, quits doing his homework and participating in class and his grades start to mimick the "new" kids. At least they wont pick on him so much now. Watch very carefully.....
PercyKution
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September 13, 2012
@tellingitlikeitis: Thank YOU for the kind words. And I want to say this. From reading your letter, I KNOW what you are saying about YOUR son being able to compete is a FACT. YOU have shown the RIGHT attitude a parent SHOULD have. Your comments to this paper NEVER show improper grammar or spelling. That's a sure sign of an intelligent person. Your son is indeed fortunate to have YOU for a parent. As for the "pat on the back" thing you mentioned, my wife died when the youngest child was 4.
tellingitlikeitis
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September 16, 2012
Sorry for your lost, your wife definetly deserve credit for having some input on the smart gene you both gave to your children. While I enjoy the battles we have on here, I understand the importance of pausing and giving someone their due. No matter whether you're right or left, black or white, free lunch or paid lunch. Everyone deserves their due respect. Ok, theirs my moment, now on to the next battle. O, and thanks for the comments. I try to teach my children to be the best in class, grades and conduct. Treat each student as your competition as you would the opposing team in sports, but most importantly challenge yourself. Who knows maybe I will have a doctor, lawyer, pentagon authority, or who knows the next African American President (If so, please telll your grandkids to give him a little slack when they post on this page). And as our current President I can assure you he is American, he will pay his taxes, his pastor is politically correct, and he was taught to respect everyone as long as they respect him. This may mean his skin is a little thinner than our currrent President. (Thought you might get a kick out of my final statements)
jwhitley1
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September 13, 2012
This issue has everything to do with overcrowding. Indeed, teachers are paid to teach all students, and frankly, they do an exceptional job at that. The primary concern I have is that there are not enough teachers at Tanglewood to teach the students (regardless of race). Having a diversified student body provides a great opportunity for students to learn about each other, other cultures, and develop friendships that might otherwise not be made. However, having 27 students in a classroom does not allow teachers to perform at their peak, and thus, student achievement is not maximized.
DaveD
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September 14, 2012
No, I don't want a "diversified" student body just for the sake of diversification. My child is there to get an education. It's attitude's like yours that are bringing the good schools down to the level of the bad ones. It's been tried and failed across the country. Leave Tanglewood alone and send the students who should not be there back to whichever district they do belong.
ROSSisRIGHT
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September 14, 2012
AMEN, DaveD.... I'm with you brother. It's just being truthful. To those of who disagree, take your kids to their school, go ahead.. why not. Diversify their schools. This is why people move to certain areas, so their kids can have better schools, etc... But bussing in diversification for some stupid politically correct reason is wrong. Would you want to build a 250 thousand dollar home in a crap neighborhood for diversification? Nope. Well our children are worth more and we don't want to put our kids in bad schools around bad kids.... Ever heard of a bad apple?
tellingitlikeitis
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September 13, 2012
This has nothing to do with overcrowding as much as it does different faces in the school. Parents don't want diversity in the school. Teachers are paid to teach (ALL CHILDREN). @Ross-trust me Tanglewood has it share of free lunchers (mostly because people cheat when filling out the paperwork). Another thing is, I was considering transferring my son (African American Male) and I can tell you without a doubt he can compete with any student at the school. Don't try to stereotype with the free lunch crap and/or the classes are overcrowded crap. All schools deal with overcrowding. If they don't like then maybe they should send their children to private schools as Percykution did.
ROSSisRIGHT
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September 13, 2012
That's right tellingit, spue your racism.. Nobody said a word about RACE BUT YOU! You see it's so apparent where the real racism is, you and YOUR people.

"You, yall, they, them", are the same as the ones YOU refer to as "us,we, our", so don't get so bent out of shape when you hear those words...
PercyKution
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September 13, 2012
Once upon a time, more than 35 years ago, I taught school right here in Robeson County. One day a little 3rd grader who had done NOTHING the day before stated out not doing his work again. I took him out in the hall and asked "WHY"? He said, with a quivering chin and a tear in his eye, "Mr. _______, I'm hungry". In that instant, I realized the IMPORTANCE of free breakfasts and lunch in public shools. NO child should EVER go hungry in this country. And skin color has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it!!!!!
BBBD
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September 12, 2012
Out of district students may account for some of the crowding. Sending those students to the schools in their districts may help some.

There's a larger issue of the school buildings in the country being old and out dated. They all need to be renovated, and many need to be expanded.
dbranch37@nc.rr.com
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September 12, 2012
According to the National Clearinghouse for Educational Facilities, funded by the U.S. Department of Education, "research has shown that classroom size should be between 42 and 50 square feet per child." (2009)

Using this guideline, the proposed classroom would need to be between 966 square feet and 1,150 square feet (computed using 23 students.)

I applaud Tanglewood parents for addressing the School Board to seek adequate staffing and facilities for their children. As a community, we should all be concerned with under staffing and overcrowding in our schools. In fact, we should demand the best for our county's children - not just "adequate."

JoAnne Branch
PercyKution
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September 12, 2012
@justthinking2: I guess SOME people just can't stand to hear the TRUTH. Same as before: people who REALLY CARE about their children's future DON'T send them to public screwels. Just as true as the FIRST time I said it. All 5 of mine went to Catholic school, and I ended up with 1 Corporate Executive, 1 (spit) lawyer (don't know where I went wrong with that one) 1 Medical Doctor, 1 Criminal Investigator with the Pentagon Police, and the oldest died when she was little. So don't tell ME about public screwels. I KNOW what they are. What I paid to send MY children to private schools was well worth it.
tellingitlikeitis
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September 13, 2012
I am glad to hear you have kids who are doing great things, but you better believe that there are people working beside your children who graduated from public schools. If parents, would assist the school by helping their children with homework, and make sure the teachers are educating and not just drawing a check, every child has the same chances of becoming dr, lawyer, pentagon police, or whatever. Education, discipline, hardwork are taught at home. Success is built at home. So, PercyKution you may want to first pat yourself on the back (can't believe I just said that), well let me change it. Percykution you may want to pat your wife/husband on the back for a job well done.
RU4Real?!
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September 12, 2012
Having worked at Tanglewood and other elementary schools, I must say that a couple years ago when they remodeled and added HUGE offices for the principal, Data Manager, and Guidance Counselor, as well as added the conference room in question, maybe they should have added an additional classroom or two instead of those HUGE offices! No offense Tanglewood, but if you go to other schools in the area, their administration don't have these HUGE offices. They are cramped in tiny spaces and they don't have a conference room. They meet in closets or workrooms to conduct business. Sounds like the board or whoever approved this remodel should have planned ahead. Also, the mobile units were used for storage, other schools don't have 'storage'!! Maybe use the units for classes instead of storage and there won't be a problem!
anonymous
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September 12, 2012
Ru4Real.....maybe you need to go and volunteer in a Kindergarten classroom this week! I work in 3 schools in Robeson County and my children are in district at Tanglewood. All 3 of the other schools I work at have conference rooms, not closets because I conduct IEP meetings in those rooms. The average K class size in the other schools are around 18 with none of them having 21. As a matter of fact, I attended a meeting in one of the mobile units at Tanglewood, and I assure you they are not used for storage! Maybe you should step back and take a look in Tanglewood now before you begin giving false information...
PercyKution
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September 12, 2012
If the parent's REALLY had the best interests of their children at heart, they wouldn't send them to a public SCREWEL to begin with. So just forget about it.
justthinking2
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September 12, 2012
I am shocked that you can make such a judgmental and vulgar comment and expect people to take you seriously.

I apologize for giving you any attention as your comments always reflect a need for ATTENTION!!!
Truth&Light
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September 12, 2012
I don't think that is a completely accurate statement unless you have first hand knowledge of the current "public" school rigor offered in our local classrooms. I have yet to have a private school student from our local area come into my mathematics class and compete with our students who have went through public school. Maybe this statement would be more feasible given another demographic area but the argument is unrealistic provided our local private schools and the level of rigor they provide in the classroom.
newsfan
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September 12, 2012
It is interesting that the school's population was reported as growing approximately 14.5% from 2009 until now. I would be surprised if the overall population in the school's district grew that much. Could it be the excessive number of out of district transfers that are approved by simply calling a board member without regard for the overcrowding that results? I seem to recall board discussions about limits on the number of transfers. That will never happen when transfers assist with getting votes.
ROSSisRIGHT
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September 12, 2012
Check the amount of free or reduced lunches, and this will tell you who "belongs" and who is dropped off... Say goodby to all those "good school grades" and awards.

Make this school a "no free lunch or breakfast school" and your numbers will go back down.
MikeSevery
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September 12, 2012
The conference room is hardly large and my understanding is that a wall will be removed to make it large enough to accommodate maybe 12 students. This wall will open space to the offices for the school nurse and social worker. Where will they go since there is no space in the school?

At a parent meeting last year, with less than 10 people, I had to single file into the conference room to work our way around the conference table. Cubbies, supply storage, reading space, group space, teacher desk, students desks, technology. How's that work?

Please don't set up the principal for failure or as a scapegoat. First, as of this morning no teacher has been hired. My understanding is that the position was to be posted yesterday but there is no link on the PSRC site yet. Second, the principal was given no choice beyond you're the principal, you fix it. This is a board, or central administration (depending on with whom you talk), created issue and they limited the solutions by taking a mobile unit off the table - the best solution beyond having not created the problem in the first place. The real choice was to pick the lesser of two evils: create combined classrooms from kindergarten through fourth grade disrupting every level within the school or convert a conference room. No educator worth their salt would disrupt an entire school even if it means 'choosing' a poor choice. The principal has been hog tied and asked to get out. I imagine construction has to be approved by someone beyond the building too.

Lastly, I'm unclear how 108 students (4 classes, 27 each) spread across 5 classes (new average class size of 21.6) gets Tanglewood below the state requirement of a class average of 21 with no more than 24 in any single class. It certainly does not get enrollment numbers below the threshold described by Dr. Rich. I'll concede that was never a possibility, but it should be an expectation and a goal for both the board and central administration.

Disappointing effort. Perhaps a lesson in politics too.

No worry though, the Tanglewood community - the administrative staff, teachers, family members, and students will come together and make this work. We shouldn't have to but we will. Perhaps if you've read this far you'll volunteer - in Tanglewood or any other PSRC school. They all need your support.

Make it a good day.

Mike Severy

blueeyes67
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September 12, 2012
It is this way in everything we do now. Students that are not American citizens or their parents are not American citizens are taking everything from our kids, including space. I am a single parent and I have a child in pre-k, I could not get assistance because the non American citizens have taken all the spots. I have worked since I was 15 and paid taxes and my children can't even get help when needed. The sad part is that because they are lieing about their household income & citizenship is what is making them eligible when I am telling the truth about my income and household. I have worked and paid taxes all my life and this is what I get.
mrlumbee3
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September 12, 2012
Sad situation blueyes67. I understand your pain. A Robesonian reader told me once that this was the "Modern America." Let's think positive and hope that the awarness of problems like yours will be attended to by our local politicians.
justthere
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September 12, 2012
You are so right.... The mexicans are taking all the pre-k spots that our little American children should be getting. They are lieing and filling out applications at different preschools; using different addresses of all their (relatives). Lets challenge the Robesonian to do a little investigative reporting and let the citizens of Robeson County know how our school dollars are being spent to de-educate our preschool age children that should be rightfully getting this crucial start to their young lives.....

Robesonian; give us some statistics!
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