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Teacher assistants: Cuts will leave hole in schools
by Ali Rockett, Staff writer
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When the school year returns in August, there will be 235 fewer teacher assistants in Robeson County classrooms, a result of budget cuts to education made by the General Assembly.
When the school year returns in August, there will be 235 fewer teacher assistants in Robeson County classrooms, a result of budget cuts to education made by the General Assembly.
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LUMBERTON — The Public Schools of Robeson County’s 571 teachers assistants waited anxiously by their mailboxes recently to see if they got the letter from the Board of Education that apologized for having to cut their position because of a $10.5 million cut in state funding from the system’s budget.

About 40 percent of them — 235 people — lost their jobs.

According to one teacher assistant who was let go, the board lost more than 235 teacher assistants, it lost the “back-bone” of the school system and its pool of future teachers.

“They’ve lost touch with what’s going on in the classrooms,” said the woman. “It’s almost humanely impossible to control a class with only one teacher.”

The teacher assistant did not want to be identified for fear of jeopardizing any future employment. She has worked with the school system for seven years. Another teacher assistant with four years experience also contacted the paper, but did not want to be identified.

According to DeRay Cole, assistant superintendent of Human Resources, every school in the system lost teaching assistants with the exception of Early College High School and the Career Center, which did not have any assistants.

Cole said that the No Child Left Behind Act sets the minimum requirement for a teacher assistant at 48 hours of college credit.

“The assistant is there for all the students, but really there for those who need that extra push and extra instruction,” said the four-year assistant. “Those are the ones that don’t get support from home, so all they get is at school. Now where are they going to turn?”

A teacher assistant’s primary role is in the classroom, aiding children with learning disabilities, attention deficits and who are hyperactive, according to Mike Smith, a 20-year school board member and current vice chairman for the board. They make sure students are working on the tasks assigned by the primary teacher and handle any students that are disruptive to the rest of the class.

They also perform secretarial duties for their teachers, like checking their mailboxes in the front office, making copies, decorating bulletin boards and cleaning the classrooms. Assistants are sometimes pulled to other classrooms to relieve teachers for a bathroom or lunch break. Smith said that some assistants also serve as bus drivers for the schools. Teacher assistants also man the computer labs in schools and assist in the library.

According to the seven-year assistant, they also care for children who have been sick. Assistants must clean up after the children and sit with them until a parent comes.

With all these tasks to fulfill, she said that the remaining assistants will be stretched too thinly.

“They are not lucky,” the sever-year veteran said. “They’re doomed.

“You are going to see things happen. You think the drop-out rate is bad now? You think absenteeism is bad now? Just wait a month without teachers assistants.”

The four-year assistant said that by removing assistants from the classroom, teachers and students are going to suffer the consequences.

“If you have 25 or 26 kids, the teacher is not going to be able to stop for one or two who are struggling,” she said. “These kids are going to fall behind.”

Most teacher assistants are assigned to the lower grades, said Cole, but are required in pre-kindergarten, kindergarten and in all educationally-challenged classes.

Cole said that the remaining teachers assistants will be assigned to fill gaps where others were let go, but not necessarily to the same school or grade-level they were assigned before. The board will begin reassigning the assistants this week.

The decision of who to let go was made by the school board at the suggestion of the superintendent, Cole said, on the basis of several criteria, including evaluations; degrees, licenses and other certifications that show a likelihood of progressing through the system; and years of experience.

The teacher assistant with seven years of experience said that none of the 336 remaining teachers assistants had less than 7.5 years of experience. No board members could corroborate the statement, although Smith said he had heard the same thing, but that there was no mention of a specific years-of-experience cut-off during the negotiations.

“Seniority would only come into play if all other factors were the same,” Cole said.

Smith said that first-year assistants were hired with the understanding that they were entering a system that would experience cuts this year.

“Teachers assistants were not the only positions that were cut,” Smith said. “But it was cut the most. There were several central office positions that were vacant that will remain open.”

The board had to cut a total of $10.5 million from its budget this fiscal year. But Erica Setzer, chief finance officer for the public schools, told the board in June that the schools still have a lump of federal stimulus money — about $4.8 million — which she said the board used to lessen the severity of the cuts.

Teacher assistants make about $1,600 per month, or between $19,000 and $20,000 annually. By eliminating 235 positions, the school system saved about $4.5 million.

“I’ve been on the board for 20 years and this had been one of the toughest decisions that I have had to make, maybe the toughest,” Smith said.

Both of the assistants interviewed in this story had returned to school for a bachelor’s degree in Education to become teachers, doing so at the recommendation of the school board.

But with the loss of their jobs and the scholarships associated with being an employed teaching assistant, the women said making tuition payments will be difficult financially.

The seven-year veteran plans to complete her studies and work as a teacher. “

The four-year assistant has decided to change her degree from Education to Social Services.

“You don’t want to get a degree and not have a job,” she said.

Staff writer Ali Rockett can be reached at (910) 272-6127 or arockett@heartlandpublications.com.



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BBBD
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July 26, 2011
Tired--- I said parents have the most impact on how their kids turn out. Teachers are a distant third. A child's friends would be second and sometimes first biggest influence. Then I said that even if someone has great parents and a great teacher they can still turn out rotten. I see it all the time.

Teachers are paid to teach, and they should try to be good role models at the same time. But you're overestimating their impact on the behavior of kids.
tiredofallthis
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July 26, 2011
BBBD, I want to make one significant suggestion to you that I forgot last night. You implied that our families and teachers do not influence our behavior. That is completely insane. We are products of what we learn in our environment. We learn from our home environment which is our family. If daddy drinks then we have no shame in drinking. Even if we don't drink ourselves most likely we accept it in our homes. If daddy beats on mama, we pick men that do the same because it is comfortable. If mama and daddy curses we curse. If mama and daddy cheat on each other then we do not see that it is wrong. Now, on the positive side if mama and daddy go to church we go. If mama and daddy uphold education as important we do. If mama and daddy volunteer to help others we do. Now with teachers if kids see their teachers drunk, buying alcohol then it puts a message in their head that it is ok because teacher's are role models. If kids see their teachers with questionable people then kids see that choice as ok. I do not want to go on any further with this issue, but please look up the affects of immoral behavior on the growing personality of a child. Please understand that we as adults are products of what we have learned. This includes the disobedience our own parents allowed in our homes. This also includes the disobedience we allow in our homes and schools. Schools should also be accountible because our kids are there over 8 hours a day.
tiredofallthis
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July 25, 2011
BBBD, apparently you did not comprehend the point I was trying to make. My point was that in this time of layoffs, accountability should also be considered. I in no way implied that all teachers in Robeson County were immoral that would be false. My comment was that in time of sifting that accountibility should be considered. I then went into detail explaining why. My personal experiences would be no different that the Teacher Assistant that were PERSONALLY AFFECTED by being laid off. The lay off personally affects their income which PERSONALLY AFFECTS their family. All this is personal. My children are personally affected by the character of their teachers. They've had good experience and not so good ones. But all the experiences were PERSONAL.
BBBD
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July 25, 2011
Tiredofallthis- On each article regarding the school system over the last couple of weeks, you've left comments turning the conversation toward morally degenerate teachers. This leads me to believe you've had some personal experience with this because you always mention reporting it. Please don't use your personal experience to paint all the teachers with such a broad brush. I'm sure you'll say you know not all teachers are bad and you aren't talking about them, but your posts don't read that way.

As for lack of discipline from teachers being a large part of the reason there's a problem with teen pregnancy and drug abuse is a real reach. It's the parents, and some people are going to do drugs and get pregnant regardless of what their parents do or who their teachers are.
tiredofallthis
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July 25, 2011
All of this is just amazing to me. All I am hearing is me me me. What about the kids? The correct way to get one's point across concerning the need for Teacher Assistants is by providing information regarding their job assignments. Now, don't get me wrong, I believe we need assistants in the classroom. I am on your side. But there seems to be a me me me attitude all the way to the Dr. Hunt. When finances are primary, accountability should be the issue. Cutbacks allow administration to get rid of the dead weight. It's not as hard as our adminstrators preach that it is even putting NCAE into it. Wake County has done a good job dealing with dismissing teachers based on "moral turpitude." Now what is "moral turpitude," it is conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty and good morals. This is the real factor we as parents should be looking at. Who is teaching our kids? Just because you graduate from UNCP with a teaching degree does not make you qualified for the job. Teachers not only teach kids how to read, write and do math they also teach discipline. Discipline is a key element in our personality that develops character. Without discipline kids drop out, use drugs, get pregnant, runaway, break into peoples homes and so on. Now, we have a high level of drop outs, drug addicts, pregnancy, homelessness and teenagers on probation. So it should be clear discipline is not high on the list. Educators blame parents and yes this is part a family problem, but not all together. We also have alot of teachers involved in negative behaviors such as drugs and alcohol, criminal cases, domestic violence,and so on. What is done when this is reported. Nothing!!! The excuse is NCAE. However, NCAE does not according to its guidelines uphold immoral behavior. Wake, Cumberland,Durham,Charlotte and many others are on record dealing with various immoral issue concerning teachers and principals. Robeson County turns its head. Why? I cannot answer I do hope the adminstrators are not living the same way. Normally that is why people accept insane behavior because it is the same way they learned to live. Well, I've said enough, but I hope that all you Teacher Assistants stand up, verbalize to the press your feelings concerning the layoffs. Concentrate on all the good things all of you do in enhancing learning in the classroom. Speak out it's your season.
phyldil8
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July 25, 2011
BBBD, I have spent a lot of my money in my classroom also, and I make far less than you. You know why I’m an assistant and I’m in school to get my teaching degree. And for ExLumberton, if you want to send your children to a private school then do so, but don’t put the public schools now. I’ve worked with the school system a long time before I got my assistants job. I even volunteered during the time of EOG’s. Yes I know that pointing fingers is not the way to go either. Dr. Hunt should have done like the other counties around us, have the assistant to get Bus licenses, and those that didn’t let them go home, unless they are the bus cornatres for the schools, because all school don’t have Assistant Principals, and why didn’t they go and let go some assistant principals like they said 6 months ago. They can teach as well as be an assistant principal in the schools. Okay you said that back in the day you didn’t have assistants in the classroom, I can remember when the assistant principal was in the classroom teaching and the principal handled the problems of children. I bet if they go back in the classroom you would see more parents at schools about the children or they would be home with them.
Ex-Lumbertonian
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July 25, 2011
I would be so offended if I were a baseball player and someone considered "bat boys" to be the backbone of baseball. If teaching is such an undervalued and underpaid position, why would you choose to be one? I have two folks within reach of me in my office who were degreed to be teachers. One tried it for a while and figured it was not a good financial fit and the other guy figured there was not enough money in the profession to support his family. Is the bottom line that many of these teachers could not find any other position in society to be useful in life? All you hear about these days are teacher unions whining all over the country! Then get another job position! Private schools are paying teachers well and they are getting Real results compared to the public school cohorts!
BBBD
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July 24, 2011
Phyldil, you're way off. I don't know how me not wanting to be a part of the teachers' union amounts to me not caring about the kids. Dues are $370 a year, and I can't afford to pay that to be a part of an association that 1) seems to promote legal advice as their biggest service and 2) doesn't share my political beliefs. I can, and do, use that $370 to spend directly on the students in my classroom, and I can avoid needing the union's legal advice by not acting like an idiot on the job. If union membership was mandatory here, I'd move to South Carolina.

Union distaste-aside, I further stated that I feel the state took the easy way out by just firing assistants when there are many areas of waste and opportunities for additional revenue that could be investigated. Then, I said I feel like the economy will turn around after the 2012 elections, and that I hope that will lead to the hiring of needed and appreciated assistants.

But, hey, I guess I moved away from my family and all my friends to the poorest county in North Carolina to teach and have only missed one day of work due to illness in the last eight years because I don't care about children. Good analysis.

robconative
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July 24, 2011
If teachers' assistants do all this work (the grunt work) what do the teachers do? And if they are willing to do all this for such a low salary, then the teachers should have been laid off, and the assistants kept. Why would you assign an assistant with a lesser education to handle the higher-needs students? And furthermore, why are some of these students in school anyway? Some are just not educable, and it's a waste of taxpayer money to pretend we are giving them an equal chance of education. Let the teachers and principals earn their salaries, let them handle the disruptive students, and clean up the vomit and wipe the behinds of the sick. If I was a teacher assistant, getting paid slave wages, I would be glad to be laid off. Oh, and be sure to vote that straight ticket next time, bring back Purdue and Obama for a second term. If the spelling and grammar in this article (humanely possible?)and these comments are any indication, it won't matter much if all the schools just shut down. The education system has hit rock bottom.
phyldil8
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July 24, 2011
BBBD, you might be one of those political agenda people that don’t care about the children. When you said in your response that I quote “I’d hate to have to give up any of my salary to be "represented" by people who only have their own interests and political agendas in mind.” So you would rather a child not get a good education so that you can have the big salary. I really don’t know what wrong with the board members, give Dr. Hunt a raise and cut TA’s. Where did they get the money to give him a raise when they said that they had to cut the budget? Well a lot of people have had to give up thing to keep other thing that they really need. You don’t think that we need those TA’s in the classroom that have a good sense of roll models. And they said in the paper that they went on: evaluations; degrees, licenses and other certifications that show a likelihood of progressing through the system; and years of experience. Well I know for a fact that they didn’t go on degrees and licenses and other certifications, they had to go on years of experience, because the only way you could get a job as a Teacher Assistant in the last few years was to meet the “NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND” and that was you had to have a two year degree and the county better watch out they may have some lawsuits coming their way. If they had the two year degree or went back to school and got the two year degree to keep their job and then they gave them the pink slip, I would be looking into it if I was the board. Robeson County has been in at least two law suits for far less and guess what they won theirs. Maybe the TA’s has one too.
wanda45
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July 24, 2011
WHY WE CANNOT CUT HOURS OF THE TA OR BETTER YET GO TO 4 DAYS SCHOOL WEEK TA HOURS TO 9-3 SIX HOURS LIKE WAKE COUNTY DID OR START WITH BOARD OF EDUCATIONS CUTS WHEN WE VOTE AGAIN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FUTURE.
BBBD
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July 24, 2011
Pointing fingers isn't going to change anything. The fact is the state doesn't have enough money to cover its expenses, so cuts have to be made. Rather than digging for ways to save money and create new revenue streams, it's just easier to fire people. Eventually they'll run out of people to fire, and then they'll have to cut out the waste in the budget.

Blaming the teachers' union is pretty pointless. Membership isn't mandatory, so they're pretty toothless when it comes to having influence with the legislature. Which is the way I like it. I'd hate to have to give up any of my salary to be "represented" by people who only have their own interests and political agendas in mind.

I feel pretty optimistic that the worst cuts are now behind us, and after 2012 the economy will be picking up again. Then, hopefully, we'll get some needed and appreciated assistants back in the classroom.
sagehopper
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July 24, 2011
This is a shameful thing. For one, TA's are valuable. Two. They aren't protected by the Teacher's Union, so the state is going after another the wrong people. A TA does what a teacher SHOULD be doing, but is only being paid a pittance. Granted, the teacher has the degree, and NEVER gets paid what they are worth..but on the other hand, neither does Administration. The Admins get paid too much.They push pencils, and aren't in the trenches with the teachers or TA's. Cutting a few Administrators is a better plan, not teachers or their TA's. Stop bowing to the Union. Cutting Admins is not going to change the student/teacher ratio. Cutting TA's or teachers does.
tiredofallthis
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July 24, 2011
When times are tough and money is the focus, accountability should be the issue. I understand that cuts had to be made somewhere but maybe lack of productivity and integrity needed to be looked at. Cutting teacher assistants only increases the problems our school system has not overcome. As our board member, Mr. Smith stated the assistants are there to give extra help to those with disabilities and other personal situations. Now half of them are gone. What remains will have to take up the slack. The question is are they capable? I am not talking about just assistants this also includes the teachers. Our system has major problems not just with the kids,parents and lack of finances, but with who is teaching our kids. Integrity and good character has been left out of teaching qualifications. Yes, background checks are done when teachers are hired, but what about those with questionable lifestyles that continue to teach in our system. It baffles me that a decision is made easily to cut teacher assistants, but repeated calls by parents, law enforcement and community leaders about possible drugs, alcohol, criminal behavior and immoral lifestyle by employees is never considered as a necessary dismissal. Its time for parents in Robeson County to stand up for better education inside and outside of the classroom.
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